Minutes of Veda mantra learning session through Webex ( Thursday, July 23, 2020 )
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Shri Gurubhyo Namaha, Harih OM 🙏
On Wednesday, we have kept Sanakalpa as a team for the speedy recovery of Guruji's cousin who is given 48 hrs by Doctor. Lets all begin to learn Rudra keeping the sankalpa. Same thing continued with the learning of Rudra today in our Thursday class.
Sudharshan has recorded today's learnings and he would share it.
For Rigveda upakarma , whatsapp group is created ( please feel free to come onboard ) and will be dissolved after Upakarma .Upakarma is a process/ritual once a year conducted to change the sacred thread using which we do daily Gayathri japa through Sandhyavandane by chanting mantras/conducting homa .
For those who are Yajurvedis, due to extra ordinery situation of shelter-in-place this year, Guru Somayji recommed people to talk to Kumaraswamy Johiji of Sanatana Dharma Kendra .
QnA : During olden days, when people were not having other jobs they used to go to learn Veda mantras. To learn any wisdom, there is Siddi and Prasiddhi which requires Sadhane. To complete academic degree, we need 4 years the same way to learn Veda mantras, we need to keep more time for ourselves.
Question : Do we need to know meaning of mantras before chanting Veda mantras like Rudra ?
When you want to Veda mantra, you need not know the meaning. Learn to chant it with corruct pronoiunciation to receive maximum benefits of chanting. Veda mantra came directly from Vishnu through Rishis. Grammer (Vyakarana) and meaning was provided much later (atleast 3000 yrs later) from PaNini rishi. We answer young children in the way he understands ,Isn't it ? As the kid become teenager and eventually adult, he/she will understand everything from nature. Same is applicable for veda mantras. If we apply Bhakti and Shradde to our learning, we mature in gaining wisdom over a period of time. Meaning also naturally flows into our divine human system through human experiences. Through Intellect also we can learn as this whole process of learning is 12 yrs Vedic Education.
About the grammer portion how it all came is through vaakya called "Arshaprayogah" meaning no one should correct it or invent grammer for it. When you learn and chant , Its enough hence it is called "Shruthi" which means many generations gave it to their next generation through listening and storing it in memory before actually writing it down in books. We are talking of at least 60000 years backward journey. When people chant Veda mantras , there is "shabda brahma" - Importance is given to shabda( pronounciation ) to receive maximum benefits. Ex : Remember our mother or grand mother how they used to grind the rice. There is unique shruthi during that process. Isn't it ? Same way here while chanting mantras, it has to be in certain shruthi.
Question : Sound Vibration keeps increasing while chanting Veda mantras , Why ?
This is the significance of Veda mantras, it is supposed to increase the shruthi naturally as we mature chanting Veda mantras. Madhyama swara is where it will stand without even being aware of it. During classical concert, shruthi remains the same .
Ex: When we touch the fire , we quickly take the hands off ( quick reflexes- Body takes action almost in parallel to processing of this instruction by the Intellect portion of our mind ). Usually body takes action only after the mind guides the body. Bhanu ji confirmed that shruthi remains the same during classical singing.
My best wishes are always with you. Keep learning !!
Harih OM
Subbu Padmanabha
Student of Guru Somayaji since Jan 2015
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Shri Gurubhyo Namaha, Harih OM 🙏
On Wednesday, we have kept Sanakalpa as a team for the speedy recovery of Guruji's cousin who is given 48 hrs by Doctor. Lets all begin to learn Rudra keeping the sankalpa. Same thing continued with the learning of Rudra today in our Thursday class.
Sudharshan has recorded today's learnings and he would share it.
For Rigveda upakarma , whatsapp group is created ( please feel free to come onboard ) and will be dissolved after Upakarma .Upakarma is a process/ritual once a year conducted to change the sacred thread using which we do daily Gayathri japa through Sandhyavandane by chanting mantras/conducting homa .
For those who are Yajurvedis, due to extra ordinery situation of shelter-in-place this year, Guru Somayji recommed people to talk to Kumaraswamy Johiji of Sanatana Dharma Kendra .
QnA : During olden days, when people were not having other jobs they used to go to learn Veda mantras. To learn any wisdom, there is Siddi and Prasiddhi which requires Sadhane. To complete academic degree, we need 4 years the same way to learn Veda mantras, we need to keep more time for ourselves.
Question : Do we need to know meaning of mantras before chanting Veda mantras like Rudra ?
When you want to Veda mantra, you need not know the meaning. Learn to chant it with corruct pronoiunciation to receive maximum benefits of chanting. Veda mantra came directly from Vishnu through Rishis. Grammer (Vyakarana) and meaning was provided much later (atleast 3000 yrs later) from PaNini rishi. We answer young children in the way he understands ,Isn't it ? As the kid become teenager and eventually adult, he/she will understand everything from nature. Same is applicable for veda mantras. If we apply Bhakti and Shradde to our learning, we mature in gaining wisdom over a period of time. Meaning also naturally flows into our divine human system through human experiences. Through Intellect also we can learn as this whole process of learning is 12 yrs Vedic Education.
About the grammer portion how it all came is through vaakya called "Arshaprayogah" meaning no one should correct it or invent grammer for it. When you learn and chant , Its enough hence it is called "Shruthi" which means many generations gave it to their next generation through listening and storing it in memory before actually writing it down in books. We are talking of at least 60000 years backward journey. When people chant Veda mantras , there is "shabda brahma" - Importance is given to shabda( pronounciation ) to receive maximum benefits. Ex : Remember our mother or grand mother how they used to grind the rice. There is unique shruthi during that process. Isn't it ? Same way here while chanting mantras, it has to be in certain shruthi.
Question : Sound Vibration keeps increasing while chanting Veda mantras , Why ?
This is the significance of Veda mantras, it is supposed to increase the shruthi naturally as we mature chanting Veda mantras. Madhyama swara is where it will stand without even being aware of it. During classical concert, shruthi remains the same .
Ex: When we touch the fire , we quickly take the hands off ( quick reflexes- Body takes action almost in parallel to processing of this instruction by the Intellect portion of our mind ). Usually body takes action only after the mind guides the body. Bhanu ji confirmed that shruthi remains the same during classical singing.
My best wishes are always with you. Keep learning !!
Harih OM
Subbu Padmanabha
Student of Guru Somayaji since Jan 2015
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